Karina standing in the spot that Austin Phillips describes like this: "There was nothing but parties in Hogan's Alley -- night time, anytime, and Sundays all day. You could go by at 6 or 7 o'clock in the morning, and you could hear jukeboxes going, you hear somebody hammering the piano, playing the guitar, or hear some fighting, or see some fighting, screams, and everybody carrying on. Some people just singing, like a bunch of coyotes holler -- they didn't care what they sounded like just as long as they was singing." (Opening Doors: Vancouver's East End, 141).